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Carla
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Posts: 347 Location: Kansas City, MO
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Posted: January 25, 2008 9:58 AM Post subject: Smoking Ban (kind of) in Kansas City |
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A couple of years ago Kansas City decided that it would approve a smoking ban only if 85% of the surrounding municipalities approved a smoking ban. In other words, they didn't want to approve a ban and have business go to other cities. Yesterday they approved a ban which takes effect in 60 days. Here are the details:
Smoking will be allowed in restaurants if there is a separate walled-off bar area.
Smoking will NOT be banned in bars. The definition of a bar is "an enclosed establishment where the primary purpose is the sale, service and consumption of alcoholic beverages." Bars can be part of a larger establishment (pool hall, hotel, restaurant).
Restaurants can allow smoking after 9 p.m.
Smoking is prohibited at sports complexes (Royals Baseball and Kansas City Chiefs).
You can still smoke at casinos (we have 5 of them).
I guess this is better than nothing, but it seems pretty watered down to me. _________________
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kannprint
Quit Date: April 10, 2004
Posts: 4988 Location: St. Louis, MO
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Posted: January 25, 2008 10:32 AM Post subject: |
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Sounds pretty much like it is here in St. Louis although smoking isn't banned in restaurants. Lots of them have voluntarily gone with the "no smoking" program, though.
These bans sure make life more healthy for those who work in the restaurants. Hope it works well in KC. _________________
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jlynn931
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Posted: January 25, 2008 12:35 PM Post subject: |
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that sounds like the first step they took here in massachusetts except you couldn't smoke in restaraunts even after 9 pm. also, a bar was only considered a bar if they had a "pub menu" as opposed to the regular restaraunt menu. it wasn't long after that they banned it altogether in bars. now its just private clubs, eagles, amvets, vfws, etc. now when i go into those places to play darts, it's a little shocking at first, but i'm ok with it.
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Jim Kwitter
Quit Date: August 26, 2007
Posts: 42 Location: South Florida
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Posted: January 25, 2008 6:38 PM Post subject: |
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Florida had a smoking ban in resteraunts but most had a seperate smoking area near or in the bar area. They included bars & pubs in 2003. I think it actually helped me to quit because smoking in general just became such a PITA and more damned trouble than it was worth. (Actually very true and in more ways than one!)
Cat- my wife and I went to England in 2000 and loved it there. However, I think the only thing that could ever make me consider smoking again is if I had to drive through London again during rush hour - hoplessly lost, and in a hurry to return a self-drive car. My backup plan was to put my wife in a Black Cab and just follow... <G> ( We made our deadline but I think I drank my dinner that evening.)
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Cowgirl UP!
Quit Date: July 26, 2004
Posts: 5029 Location: Ala
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Posted: January 25, 2008 7:55 PM Post subject: |
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Carla, it sounds watered down to me also but I guess it is a start with hopes of getting re-elected! I like the idea of no smoking in a public place period....here, the zoo is even off limits....however, there are bars etc that allow smoking...in our small city, we got to choose if our business was a smoking or non smoking establishment...we chose non smoking but I did that a couple of years before I even quit....
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pinkpearl
Quit Date: June 30, 2007
Posts: 1667 Location: Illinois
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Posted: January 25, 2008 10:50 PM Post subject: |
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Illinios just banned it from anywhere!
you have to be 15 feet from any public
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It helps me alot when Im out |
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Linda661
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Posted: January 29, 2008 1:02 PM Post subject: |
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It's a start at least. My state started with something similar to that -- now smoking is banned from all bars, restaurants, public workplaces (can still smoke in casinos I think, but some of those have gone to nonsmoking areas available). If one smokes outside, they have to be at least 25 feet (it may be more than this) from a doorway or air intake of the building....that means windows, air conditioning/heat pumps (equipment circulating air into a building). There's a fine if this isn't followed.
Even hotels around here are getting aggressive on this issue now, even though they are not required to (that I know of). I hadn't expected to find last year that every hotel at the coastal destination I went to in a state near me was 100% non-smoking and that included outside on the balcony as well. One hotel wouldn't permit smoking on their property AT ALL....smokers had to go to the side walk across the street from the hotel. When you registered for a room, you signed off that you knew that if you were caught smoking, you would pay a hefty fine to the hotel so they could clean up the room. There was literally nowhere to go except the town sidewalks or the beach.
The tide is definitely turning in stages.
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nichole
Quit Date: April 14, 2007
Posts: 455 Location: So Cal
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Posted: January 30, 2008 4:46 PM Post subject: |
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I'm in California... smoking is not allowed anywhere anymore. I've even heard talk of trying to pass laws against smoking in cars....
It started out really slowly here, too, though until the laws became more and more strict. It really is nice as a non-smoker becuase it's so abnormal to see anyone smoking in public! _________________
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